Okay, I understand I have to substantiate my research. As I mentioned our Conan is not to be confused with the cartoon character nor the movie character played by Arnold. Our ancestor was Conan Meriadoc. He was called the barbarian king I believe due to his love of fighting wars. That is likely coined by modern day historians rather than a nickname he had during his time. He led the armies for decades and fought several other armies. You can find a fair bit about him on Google. Here is another snippet on him:
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hmmm..I'll have to let all that set a while. But I'm still not kin to Conan The Barbarian and the jury is stil out on the Fat guy. All that is pretty deep, and to verify all that, I'd have to study the sources. Not that I don't beleive it, I just don't think Orrin and I could get all that on the tree that we are going to color in at the reunion. Either way, becareful telling people you have traced your family back to Conan the Barbarian.....maybe use his real name and then say "he was a real barbarian". Some of us still are, but that's okay too!
when we color it in Sandi, should I bring the dry-erase markers or the sharpies?
I do like to be prepared.
Great post Sarah, I do needs to chew on it for a while as well.
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Orrin, bring 'em both! It's OUR tree and we can color IN our OUT of the lines! LOL!
Hey...has anyone sent pics to Dylan? He needs 'em!!! don't forget! and also don't forget the baby pics for Debbey to post. By the way Debbey, are we suppose to email them to you direct or post them?
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**Early British Kingdoms
By David Nash Ford
Conan Meriadoc,'King' of Dumnonia & Brittany(Born c.AD 305)(Welsh: Cynan; Latin: Conanus; English: Conan)
Conan (Cynan)was the son of Octavius the Old's brother, Gerontius, (or Octavius himself according to the Dream of Macsen Wledig). He had expected to inherit his uncle's position of influence in what is now Wales, until his cousin, Helena, married the Roman citizen, Magnus Maximus. Originally, Conan was considerably put out by this man's rise to power and he organised a rebellion against him, aided by Picts & Scots. However, being defeated, Conan became great friends with his rival and travelled with Maximus to the continent to help him become Emperor of the West. He was given control over Armorica (modern Brittany) as a reward for killing the previous holder of the title. His new province, was well settled by his men-at-arms, however they lacked wives. Therefore, in order to populate the area, he sent to his uncle's old ally, Donaut of Dumnonia for numerous Cornish ladies. Conan proposed to cement the alliance of their two peoples by marrying Donaut's daughter, Ursula. Though Donaut was delighted at the match, Ursula had her heart set on a life devoted only to God. She agreed to the marriage, on the condition that she first be allowed to go on a pilgrimage throughout Europe. Conan appears to have joined her in Rome, where the two must have been married, probably by Pope Cyriacus himself. He apparently did not travel to Cologne where Ursula died. In later years, he gained considerable influence in Dumnonia after the death of his father-in-law. The Governorship of Armorica & Dumnonia was united for only a short time. As his second wife, Conan married Dareca of Ireland, a supposed, though unlikely, sister of St. Patrick. Upon Conan's death, around AD 395, control of each region fell to the sons of his two marriages, Gadeon and Gradlon.
There were four Kings of Briton named Conan:
Conan Meriadoc the barbarian kind ruled from 340 AD to 387 AD
Conan the Crooked ruled from 970 AD to 992 AD
Conan II ruled ruled from 1056 AD to 1066 AD
Conan the Fat ruled from 1112 AD to 1148 AD
The Gaines family came to the US from Wales where there roots lie for centuries. Amy Gaines is decendant from James Gaines whose father was Thomas Games "The Immigrant" who came to the US in the mid 1600's (as I recall). The "Games" name traced back to Morgan Gam in the mid to late 1400's. The Gam name goes back to Sir David Gam (Dafydd ap Llewllyn).
Alias: /DAVID-AP-LLEWELYN/
25 Oct 1415BATTLE OF AGINCOURT FRANCE
SAVED KING HENRY IV'S LIFE-KNIGHTED
In the book, IN SEARCH OF WALES, H.V. Morton says; Among the Welshmen that followed King Henry to the French Wars ...tough warriors under the command
of Davy the One-eyed... did gallant service at Agincourt." The King Henry referred to is Henry V of England, and the French Wars are those of Henry's invasion of France culminating in the decisive battle of Agincourt in 1415."Davy the one-eyed" is David Gam, who played a rather conspicuous part in English history and literature.
This David Gam, according to abundant and reliable evidence, was a son of Llewellyn, who traced his family back, through many notable Welsh ancestors to Cradoc Fraich-Fras (Cradoc of the Strong Arm), a knight of King Arthur's Round table; and to Brychan, one of the ancient Kings of Wales. The "Gam" was a nickname, signifying crippled or lame-forerunner of the English word "Game" used in the same sense-and had reference to a defect or injury of one of David's eyes, causing historians to describe him variously as "The Squint eyed" or "The one-eyed". Theophilus Jones states in A HISTORY OF THE COUNTY OF BRECKNOCK that he was probably 55 or 60 years old when he went to France, since he left both children and grandchildren behind. He was an athletic person with red hair and before the invasion he was already rated a squire in the service of the King. The ancestors and descendants of David Gam came primarily from "A History of the County of Brecknock" by Theophilus Jones, Volume Two, published sold by Blissett, Davies and Co., 14 Bridge Street, in 1909. Theophilus Jones was the Deputy Registrar of the Archdeaconry of Brecon. It was at AGINCOURT that David Gam won the accolade of Knighthood-at the cost of his life. In a furious action, in which with personal daring he saved the life of the King who was hemmed in and about to be overpowered, he received wounds from which he died, either on the field of battle or shorly after. At any rate, the king knighted him there "Sir Davy Gam". Mr Jones makes this important statement:
"From this David Gam or Sir David Gam, all ye Games of Breckockshire and elsewhere are descended...". Sir Walter Raleigh has an eulogium upon his bravery and exploits in field of Agincourt, in which he prefers his greatness of soul to that of Mago, and compares him to Hannibal. It is believed he was the original of Shakespeare's character of Fluellin, of Henry V, "for," says Jones' history of Brecon County, "there was no other person of that country in the English Army who could have been supposed to have been upon such terms of familiarity with the King; and it must be observed that Llewellyn was the name by which he was kwown in that army." David's children took the name Gam as their surname. This in the course of a century became Game and eventually Games. The traditional belief of the Gaines family in America that they are descended are of Welsh origin and descended from Davy Gam and the Games family of Brecknockshire. David lived at Peytin Gwin, Brecknockshire, Wales Book, "Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith". pages 787-788:
Dafydd ap Llewllyn, called from a cast or squint he had in one eye, Dafydd Gam, the Crooked. This was the celebrated David Gam, Knight. There are two references for David Gam, the first being Ancestry of John Whitney, by Henry Melville. pp 102 and 216. (The Robert Whitney who married Constance. Touchet had married 1st Alice Vaughn, daughter of Thomas Vaughn, son of Sir Roger Vaughn and Gladys Gam, daughter of Sir David Gam. You descend from Robert Whitney's 2nd wife, Constance Touchet. This explains the Gam data in the Whitney book.) Sir David Gam, in the Whitney book, was hero of Agincourt in 1415. His daughter Gladys married Sir Roger Vaughn.
Note: our journey back in time to get to this point is through the Gaines line back to King Henry I back to Aedd Mawr (King Edward I), etc. It would be a very long post if I put everything in chronological order.
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